Unreleased/Rumored Songs

[EvenInDeath46]

This thread is for discussing unreleased and rumored songs: past and present. Over time, each song title that is bolded will receive a written short summary.

Faixa Five

First Appeared - On that BMI copyright website. It has Faixa Five located. As Seen Here

Notes/Facts - They say it was written by Ben, David and Amy; therefore one can assume it's Pre-Fallen (or around the time Fallen was finalized). It could be a Fallen B-Side, a 2001-2002 demo or something even further back (but not past SA/W EP because David joined around the time of Origin) Faxia means 'Song' in Portugeese.

Catherine

First Appeared - It was mentioned in EvExpert's disography site 'EvRoom' and is talked about during Moody's Departure in an MTV Article. As Seen Here

Notes/Facts - It states on how Ben Moody remembers that 'Catherine' is the only joint writing session he could remember him and Amy having. It is said in the article that the song was 'penned' in 2000 (before Origin was made) and never actually made it to Origin. Many say that this song along with Spanish was performed live by Evanescence in their early performances along with other (Evanescence EP) songs. Some speculate that the song 'Bleed' is really 'Catherine' and that's why it was known as 'Untitled'. Although, the only reason why it was known as 'Untitled' was because bootlegers are stupid and can't name things correctly (ahrm *Breath No More*, *Wash It All Away* & *Further Away*?!?! Wtf?)

Spanish

First Appeared - We are not sure when this first 'appeared' although it was mentioned in EvExpert's disography 'EvRoom'.

Notes/Facts - Apparently, we have consensus that this song was an instrumental (made during the time of Origin? Pre-Origin?) and that it too didn't make it to Origin along with Catherine. It as well was played along with Catherine and other EP songs.

Me & You

First Appeared - Like Spanish, we aren't sure where this appeared although it was mentioned in EvExpert's 'EvRoom'.

Notes/Facts - This apparently is an unfinished song that was originally suppose to be on the Evanescence EP. No other information is known. This time in Evanescence history is very uncertain. It is even said that My Immortal (Piano-Vocal) was originally named 'Childish Intentions' at this time (after the band scrapped the idea for the name of their band themselves) so anything could have occured here.

* Credit goes to DarkFlare89 at FMB for the above information.

If You Don't Mind

This is a b-side for "The Open Door" that first appeared on EvBoard. It was written during "The Open Door" sessions. It was written by Amy Lee, Terry Balsamo, and Will Boyd.

Together Again

This is another b-side for "The Open Door" that first appeared on EvBoard. Amy Lee wrote this song on her own. This is also rumored to be the Narnis track.

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Ecotone

Proven false.

Your Love

Tuna Afternoon

Fighting For

Prisoner For A Long Day

Proven false.

Alone

Hating You

Through Her Eyes

A Single Tear

Eternity Of The Remorse

[snezzy]

I strongly dislike it when artists tease you with songs like these (unless of course they have perfectly good reasons as being too personal or unfinished, that's completely understandable). Because it's like ... 'I wanna hear it' and then they're teasing us with 'Oh yeah, we wrote this song way back but no ones gonna hear it now because we've decided not to release it'. </mini-rant>

I've been dying to hear new Eva stuff, but that's me. What usually happens is that I fall for a song and I play it over and over (quite literally) until I can't stand listening to it anymore (at least on purpose, if it's in shuffle mode or whatever I don't object). So usually when I hear 'Unreleased Tracks' I'm like ... ... ... gimme!?!

[EvenInDeath46]

^I agree and can feel your sentiments. It would be cool though if Evanescence one day released a CD or even a complete box set of all their unreleased material (and maybe they could re-release their EP's and Origin as well) put together into one complete collection. It might actually be worth the wait then.

Anyways, this post is dedicated to the rumored song "Ecotone." I will post all the information I have contained in my notes (I actually got the chance to save it when I found out that I posted some information on a different forum before the EvanescenceWebsite forum was deleted). I will edit my first post in this thread and write a short summary for "Ecotone" there later.

About "Ecotone":

Evanescence will be releasing 4 things for their upcoming single Lithium.
1. Lithium Part 1
2. Lithium Part 2
3. Lithium Vinyl Picture Disk
4. Lithium EP (CD/DVD)

The release date for the Lithium EP is still TBD but it will only be released in the UK. Similar to 'Anywhere But Home', the DVD will come with both an audio CD and of course the DVD. (Although you may just buy the audio CD which will count as UK's Lithium single)

The track listing will be as follows
ARTIST: Evanescence
TITLE: Lithium LP (CD/DVD)
LIST PRICE: TBD
STREET DATE: TBD

TRACK LISTING

CD Tracks
1. Lithium
2. Lithium (Radio Edit)
3. The Last Song I'm Wasting On You (Unreleased Track)
4. Ecotone (Unreleased Track)

DVD Tracks
5. Lithium
6. Lithium (Acoustic)
7. All That I'm Living For (Acoustic)
8. Making Of Lithium
9. Call Me When You're Sober (MTV Awards Latin America)
10. Bring Me To Life (MTV Awards Latin America)

P&C Wind-up Records, LLC

This will probably be released a few weeks following the single releases.

This was the rumored tracklisting.
Source: EvanescenceWebsite (I believe)

An ecotone is a transition area between two adjacent ecological communities (ecosystems). It may appear on the ground as a gradual blending of the two communities across a broad area, or it may manifest itself as a sharp boundary line.

Changes in the physical environment may produce a sharp boundary, as in the example of a shoreline or the interface between areas of forest and cleared land. Elsewhere, a more gradually blended interface area will be found, where species from each community will be found together as well as unique local species. Mountain ranges often create such ecotones, due to the wide variety of climatic conditions experienced on their slopes. They may also provide a boundary between species due to the obstructive nature of their terrain; Mont Ventoux in France is a good example, marking the boundary between the flora and fauna of northern and southern France. Most wetlands are ecotones.

Ecotones are particularly significant for mobile animals, as they can exploit more than one set of habitats within a short distance. This can produce an edge effect along the boundary line, with the area displaying a greater than usual diversity of species.

The word was coined from a combination of eco(logy) plus -tone, from the Greek tonos or tension – in other words, a place where ecologies are in tension.

The definition of the term 'ecotone.'
Source: Wikipedia

I got the Lithium EP from my friend in the UK who gets advanced copies of stuff from Wind-up (that's how I saw the video first). Anyway... it's awesome. The video looks fantastic. There's also two videos of acoustic performances (Lithium & ATILF) I don't know where they're recorded but it has a dark forest backdrop. It shows the making of Lithium which is always cool to watch and it has performances from an award show that I've never seen.

The audio CD comes with 4 tracks, one is the regular Lithium, the 2nd is the radio edit of Lithium- which is shorter but you can hear the strings & piano more. The 3rd track is Last Song I'm Wasting on You and the 4th is of course, my favorite, Ecotone. I don't think this is the Narnia track because it's probably Evanescence's heaviest song, Amy also does a scream in this song similar to tourniquet. It doesn't match The Open Door very well so I can see why it's a b-Side.

All in all, awesome DVD/CD. smile.gif
Oh, it plays on my XBOX 360 and my XBOX is from the US...
Hmmmmm....

Photo of the cover I took with my phone:

Picture currently unavailable.

Karmacode's post on the EvanescenceWebsite forum.
Source: EvanescenceWebsite Forum

Karmacode: I'd like to apologize for lying about the having the Lithium DVD. I don't really have it. It doesn't exist. Sorry.

paperflowers15: ^ So does that mean you don't have Ecotone either?

Karmacode: I don't have Ecotone.

paperflowers15: So you lied about giving it to those four people?

Karmacode: Yes, nobody has it.
The song doesn't even exist.
There is no song called Ecotone.

It was a joke.

paperflowers15: Ok, I'm lending a little bit of an open ear about this but since you've apparently lied before, I'm gonna stay a lil cautious...

WTF do you mean it was a prank? Are your sources credible?

Karmacode: The song doesn't exist. Period. End of story.

paperflowers15: Hmmm... well... I really have nothing more to say to you. It's been posted that it's gonna be with the Lithium single... how can millions of Ev fans be on some kind of joke like that?

stupidgirl805: wow.no offense, but...how pathetic.

Karmacode: Oh well.

jlc_rocks05: so what did you achieve from this exactly?

Karmacode: Nothing. I suck. Sorry.

Karmacode's confession and discussion with other members.
Source: EvanescenceWebsite Forum

I received email confirmation from Amy last night that the Ecotone track is bogus. There never was and never will be a song called Ecotone by Evanescence.

Tracie's post after receiving an e-mail from Amy Lee confirming the non-existence of the song "Ecotone."
Source: EvThreads.com

In conclusion:

It appears that the whole rumor was orchestrated by one individual. I believe the tracklisting for the Lithium EP first appeared on Wikipedia. It's possible that Karmacode edited Evanescence's page on Wikipedia and planted the disinformation there to cause mass chaos amongst excited Evanescence fans. Perhaps, Karmacode only faslely took responsibility for starting the whole rumor, when in fact he only produced the fake picture and tracklisting. I don't think the origins of the rumor were ever validated and that's why I'm waiting for any leads through discussion in this thread.

[DarkFlare89]

Such a shame about Ecotone...it's an even bigger shame that I don't remember the demos that were rumored that I listed back on FMB 1. If I ever get really bored, maybe I'll resurrect the topic over there, but I think I'll just leave it alone for a while at least until we get whiff of Amy/Eva creating a third album.

[EvenInDeath46]

^ Maybe you should make a new topic? It's too bad that you didn't have a chance to save all your information from that topic into your notes. No one could have predicted the demise of FMB though.

As I asked in my previous post, do you know anything conclusive about the origins of the "Ecotone" rumor? Do you have any other insightful or interesting infomation to add to that rumored song's topic?

Anyways, I was just looking through my notes and found something interesting. Do you remember when I asked about the former forum archives on the EvanescenceWebsite forum (I'm still waiting for Michelle and Renee's posts from you, by the way ). I was looking for a flash website that someone posted on that forum that featured some "unknown lyrics" that some people (including myself) tried to decipher. We believed that they could possibly be lyrics form the unreleased b-sides/demos from The Open Door. I actually found the lyrics, which AeternusAmatorius (known as sweetserenity on this forum) typed up on EvThreads.com last year.

I think I found some lyrics to some of the B-sides at this one site (Aeryn). They're some pretty cool lyrics.

"Love lies bleeding dying
If only you could see how close you came to me
Turning, tearing worlds apart"

"If you believe
When we believe in you"

"@ Killing Dreaming of killing time"

The words in bold and in this color are words that were crossed out.



Or I could be wrong and they could have just been thrown in there, but I doubt it.

I found a link to the site, which previously did not work. It seems to be working now though, at least for me. Check it out here:

www.draftlight.net/aeryn/

The website looks totally different now but, at the time, it included lyrics from songs on The Open Door along with the unknown lyrics in motion. It is possible that this person Aeyrn (whoever he or she may be) just made these lyrics up to ruffle up some feathers, like Karmacode did with "Ecotone" and the Lithium EP/DVD. Who knows?

Anyways, we have confirmed that eighteen songs were written and recorded for The Open Door, correct? Amy said sixteen, John Lee said seventeen, and Renee said eighteen songs. I guess that we'll never know, unless Amy officially releases these b-sides/demos or Renee rips her CD and leaks the songs onto the Internet.